PANC 2022: The Psychology and Practicality of Retirement Income

Personalization is required to help people create a paycheck in retirement, says Shlomo Benartzi.

While automated features have transformed the way participants save for retirement in defined contribution plans, one of the authors of such features says they are not the answer for decumulation and creating income in retirement.

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Speaking at the 2022 PLANADVISER National Conference in Scottsdale, Arizona, Shlomo Benartzi, professor emeritus and co-founder of the Behavioral Decision-Making Group at the UCLA Anderson School of Management, said auto-features that harness the power of participants’ inertia to help them save for retirement won’t work to turn DC plan savings into a paycheck in retirement.

“Over a lifetime, people accumulate assets and differences,” said Benartzi, who, along with Nobel laureate Richard Thaler of the University of Chicago, pioneered the Save More Tomorrow program to nudge employees to increase their retirement savings rates gradually over time. “You can’t give the same solutions to such different people.”

Benartzi also cautioned that participants should not be enrolled into income solutions that are irreversible, as circumstances—including health and cognitive ability—can change in retirement, and income may need to as well.

During a panel session titled “The Psychology and Practicality of Retirement Income” with Benartzi, George P. Fraser, managing director at the Fraser Group, Retirement Benefits Group, and Michelle Richter, executive director of the Institutional Retirement Income Council, the speakers outlined the details of a new program from Benartzi, Pension Plus, that uses data points available from a plan recordkeeper and a short one-on-one interview to personalize an individual’s decumulation plan and create a paycheck in retirement.

“Without personalization, you cannot deal with decumulation,” said Benartzi.

Fraser, who has used Pension Plus with participants of plan sponsors that he advises, called it “really simple for people to understand.”

“For the average American, it gives people the ability to know what their [weekly, bi-weekly or monthly] check is going to look like,” said Fraser.

Richter stressed that personalization, or “the need to understand the human,” is a key difference between the asset accumulation phase of retirement planning and the decumulation phase, when people are living off their assets. “Asset management doesn’t require knowing the human at all,” she said. “In the field of asset accumulation, you can rely on modern portfolio theory.”

Conversely, she cited Nobel laureate William Sharpe’s assertion that decumulation is “the nastiest problem that exists in finance.”

The Pension Plus tool uses information from individuals, starting with their gender and the age at which they want to retire, their investment risk tolerance, whether they want to leave any bequests to family or charity and their preferred spending path. (Do they want to spend more when they are younger in retirement or when they are older?)

Fraser indicated that in his experience, it takes about 15 to 20 minutes in a one-on-one meeting with a participant to explain the tool and the concept of creating a retirement paycheck. Benartzi added that the process could be more automated if more information, including gender, could be available from recordkeepers’ systems.

While systems that assume the most popular options for all, as is common in auto-features, work well on the accumulation side of retirement plans, those same assumptions would end in results appropriate for only 4% of people in decumulation, Benartzi said.

Using as examples a man and a woman of the same age, retirement account balance and self-assessment of their health as good, Benartzi demonstrated the tool and how different answers to the questions would result in vastly different paychecks in retirement. In the example, one person’s set of choices led to a monthly paycheck of $4,959, while the other resulted in a check of $761.

“This is personalization in action,” said Benartzi. “If you take the most popular choice [instead of the personalized choice] on many dimensions, at the end you might find that it fits nobody.”

Senator Calls for Confirmation Vote on Assistant Secretary of Labor Nominee

Senator Patty Murray takes the 48th anniversary of ERISA to emphasize the importance of having a proper secretary to oversee EBSA.


On September 6, Senator Patty Murray, D-Washington, published a press release and accompanying resolution calling for the confirmation of Lisa Gomez as assistant secretary of labor for the Employee Benefits Security Administration and emphasizing the importance of Employee Retirement Income Security Act

Murray, chair of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Education Committee, noted in the release that approximately 142 million employees are covered by ERISA, as well as 730,000 employer-sponsored plans.

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Gomez was nominated in July 2021, and failed a confirmation vote on June 8 of this year because Vice President Kamala Harris was not present in the chamber to break the 50-50 tie.

Ali Khawar has been acting assistant secretary since March 2021. David Levine of Groom Law explains that there is no limit on Khawar’s authority relative to what Gomez’s will be if she is confirmed. He says “they can keep moving forward,” and notes that “EBSA is pretty active.”

There has been some Republican opposition to Gomez’s confirmation. Ranking committee member Senator Richard Burr, R-North Carolina, did not offer specific comment on his opposition during Gomez’s confirmation hearing before the committee.

Senator Tommy Tuberville, R-Alabama, hinted at one potential source of Republican opposition during the hearing when he asked, “Do you agree that a fiduciary should always act in the best economic interests of investors and work to maximize the investor’s total return on a risk-adjusted basis?”

Although Tuberville did not mention environmental, social and governance investments specifically, he is from a state whose attorney general was among the 19 who recently issued a joint letter to Blackrock criticizing the firm for using state pension fund assets in ESG investments. The letter asserts that ESG does not maximize returns on investment and does not satisfy the firm’s fiduciary duty, and instead only advances its “climate agenda.”

Tuberville’s office could not be reached for comment.

Lisa Gomez has been endorsed by the AFL-CIO, a federation of unions that traditionally supports Democrats and endorsed Joe Biden for president in 2020.

Ryan Meyers, a spokesperson with Senator Murray’s office, says there is no timetable for another floor vote on Lisa Gomez’s nomination. However, Dan Zielinski of the Insured Retirement Institute says he expects Gomez to be confirmed by the end of the year.

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