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PANC 2013: Fee Disclosures
“The law says that you have to do this, so we all did it,” said Michael Perry, president of Retirement Advisors LLC. “Was it good for the industry?”
Panelists agreed that fee disclosure affected plan sponsors and participants differently. “At the plan sponsor level, fee disclosure was very good for the industry,” said Morris, adding that it was likely an exercise in futility at the participant level. “But there are still lots of plan sponsors that we run across that are being overcharged for poor services or even plans that were orphaned by a broker. I think it shed some light on those scenarios.”
A member of the audience pointed out that while she has been forthcoming about her fees as an adviser, she felt that the recordkeeper fee is often embedded in the 12b-1 at the fund level and partially covered by revenue sharing. The plan sponsor does not see what the recordkeeping fee is, she said, and asked panelists how they would make sure clients see fees on an apples-to-apples basis.
“Since 2007, recordkeepers have spent a great deal of time
and money on those 408(b)(2) notices,” Perry said, noting that as a relatively
experienced provider in the industry, he has also had
trouble understanding what fees are being charged, for what services.
“There’s not an apples-to-apples comparison,” Morris said, and different providers can outline very different costs. Two advisers competing for the same business might produce quite different proposals. “Part of the value you can bring to a plan is to shed some light on fees,” he said. Advisers can also help a plan sponsor to negotiate with a vendor.
Value Proposition
Fee disclosures can be part of an adviser’s value proposition,
said Henry Yoshida, principal of The Maresh Yoshida 401k Group. Fee disclosure
has helped plan sponsors understand that a plan is not free and that recordkeeping
costs come with sponsoring the plan.
When designing their disclosure format, The Maresh Yoshida 401k Group built in additional services that could be billed on the back end, Yoshida said, to address unique situations. “We further defined fiduciary versus non-fiduciary services on the advice of our counsel,” he added.
Morris detailed his firm’s process for sending new notices to clients last March. “We changed our contract and re-papered everyone this year,” he explained. “This is something fee disclosure can’t help with. You can look at itemized costs. If it’s truly about costs, it takes fees out of the equation and lets you look at itemized costs for services like benchmarking.”
Outside counsel reviewed contracts and a separate disclosure, Morris said. “We created 408(b)(2) discovery to clients, which directed them to a schedule in the contract, which broke out services and what our compensation would be, and language for non-monetary cash compensation.”
The firm has a base rate for their retainer and a section for additional services. “If someone needs help with a DOL [Department of Labor] audit, we have the right to bill for that. This way, we were able to take some of our plans to a profitable status.”
Standardization in fee disclosure still needs clarification, Yoshida said. The guidelines for disclosures have been given, and retirement plan providers have the freedom to create their own forms. “A significant improvement would be a standardized structure,” Yoshida said.
“That’s part of the value proposition,” Yoshida said. “Until
there is a standardized template, it’s up to us to create a simple format to
disclose fees.”