IRA Rollovers Set to Grow, but by How Much?

Experts expect the IRA asset pool of more than $12 trillion to increase from rollovers, but the shift may be tempered by evolutions in 401(k) plans and adviser practices.

With the U.S. currently in the year of Peak 65, when more people than ever will reach the traditional retirement age, the already robust amount of rollovers going into individual retirement accounts is likely to increase in coming years, according to some experts.

With retirement plan advisers and wealth managers combining forces, this may mean a chance for rollover capture and management—but those same experts note that the picture is more nuanced. While IRAs are by far the most popular plan rollout option, workplace retirement plans have also become more viable options to keep savings in, and financial advisers are more open to managing them as part of a holistic portfolio of assets.

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Assets in IRAs sat at $12.6 trillion as of the end of 2020, slightly greater than the total assets in both defined contribution and defined benefit plans combined, $12.1 trillion, according to the most recent data from the board of governors of the Federal Reserve System, as analyzed by the Employee Benefit Resource Institute.

That growth in IRAs is “likely to continue, because many people cycle through different jobs over a career and may have multiple accounts at different employer plans,” says John Scott, the director of the Pew Charitable Trust’s retirement savings project. “Rollovers provide an opportunity to consolidate accounts, which is desired by participants, and Pew’s survey work has shown that people appreciate having control over their assets in an account that is not part of a former employer.”

About 75% of investments into IRAs come from qualified plan rollovers, according to analysis by the Investment Company Institute. When asked to cite reasons for IRA rollovers, respondents in ICI research given multiple choices cite job changes at 68%, retirement at 43% and other reasons at just 7%.

With more people retiring in the U.S., this would appear to indicate more IRA rollovers. But Scott notes a more complicated picture, as federal legislation has encouraged qualified plan development.

“Recent federal legislation is facilitating an infrastructure that will allow accounts (at least initially small accounts) to follow workers as they move from job to job,” he says. That may lead to employees consolidating accounts that will eventually go into an IRA, but it will take time and analysis to see how that plays out, according to the researcher.

To Stay or Go

Traci Stahl, chief operating officer for Charles Schwab Corp.’s workplace financial services, expects to see IRA roll-ins increase as people hit “distributable events” in their careers—but she, too, notes the potential for many people to stay in workplace plans even after considering their rollout options.

Schwab’s most recent data from its 401(k) business shows that 62% of people making workplace plan withdrawals from a distributable event are moving the funds into an IRA. But Schwab has also found that about 31% of participants who have had a “distributable event,” such as a job change or retirement, still have funds in their workplace plan. Some of those people may still be weighing options, Stahl notes, but some are staying intentionally.

“The differences [between a workplace plan and IRA] in today’s world are rather minimal,” she says. “There may be a pro for them or a con for them based on their individual situation, [such as] … What are the fund selections in their current retirement plan versus ones they will get in an IRA? They’ll also be thinking what kind of access they’re going to have to tools, resources, professional advice—is that more appropriate in an IRA that they may transition to, or are they getting what they need in the plan today?”

The decision to move into an IRA may also not happen immediately. Stahl says that people take an average of 2.5 years to decide to move retirement savings.

From Work to Wealth

A shift to more people staying within plan may mean less fee generation across retirement plans and wealth management. But Peter Campagna, a principal in the Wise Rhino Group of consultants who specializes in M&A, says there is a misconception that the retirement and wealth convergence is focused on rollovers from retirement plans. The actual focus, he says, is becoming fiduciaries for financial advisement and planning.

“I don’t think anyone that I do business with is really focused on rollovers,” he says. “[Plan advisers] are focused on engaging participants in wellness, overall, and becoming fiduciaries for participants’ overall health; if that includes the rollover, then so be it. But these firms are thinking way bigger than the rollover and want everything around it as well.”

Increased regulation, he notes, is yet another reason to approach rollover business cautiously. That focus may heighten further if the Department of Labor finalizes its recent retirement security proposal, which brings one-time rollover advice under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act.

Edward Gottfried, senior director of product at Betterment, notes that financial advisers today will often manage a client’s portfolio and a 401(k) plan via account linking.

“The adviser can take [the 401(k)] into consideration when thinking about your asset allocation, and they often want to give advice on how you want to continue participating in that 401(k) plan and at what rate, as opposed to different accounts available to you,” Gottfried says. “That introduces the opportunity for advisers to facilitate the conversation of how and when to think about where those assets are custodied and start to give more detailed recommendations.”

He notes that there is significant individual choice at play in terms of how much control someone may want over their savings, as opposed to those who are happy with their 401(k) setup.

“There are fiduciary rules and responsibilities that must be present in a 401(k) that won’t apply in all situations in an IRA,” he says. “That may mean that investment options that may excite you as an individual may not be available to you, whether that is something that is more conservative or more aggressive.”

Cash flow is also another key differentiator, Gottfried notes, with people wanting to access their savings more easily for projects or large purchases. In this case, IRAs may have advantages that workplace plans do not offer.

End Game

When it comes to figuring out how to manage assets in retirement, Schwab’s Stahl notes, the conversation generally gets more complicated. In today’s economy, many retirees may be factoring in circumstances such as remaining with a firm part-time, getting income from a different part-time role, retiring altogether and how might they want to be spending their savings.

“That may lead to portions of it going to an IRA or portions of it still staying in the plan if those are some of the choices they have within their 401(k) plan,” she says.

Stahl says that the financial adviser’s role, whether via the workplace plan or outside of it, is to be transparent and to guide people to their best option.

“When we’re having these conversations with helping people through some of these consideration points, it’s being as transparent as possible and thinking through all the different things they might need at that particular event,” she says. “It will be different for different people, and it may just take some time for them to think through what is right for them, depending on their situation.”

Retirement Industry People Moves – 3/29/24

Nicolet National Bank brings on new wealth, private client services head; Standard appoints new corporate actuary and chief risk officer; and Equitable names new retirement and investment leaders.

Nicolet National Bank Hires Bohn to Lead Wealth, Private Client Services

Nicolet National Bank, the operating entity of bank holding company Nicolet Bankshares Inc., has hired William Bohn to lead its wealth management and private client and trust businesses.

As executive vice president of wealth management, private client and trust services, Bohn will oversee the bank’s wealth, client and trust services, alongside its retirement plan services. He will report to Mike Daniels, chairman, president and CEO, who oversees wealth management, retirement plan services, private client services and trust and investment management.

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Bohn joins the bank from USI Insurance Services, where he was the CEO of USI-Community Agencies. Prior to that role, he worked at Associated Banc-Corp., where he held several senior executive roles, including serving as executive vice president and head of wealth management and institutional services.

The Standard Shuffles Corporate Actuary and Chief Risk Role

Lauren Canfield

The Standard has appointed Lauren Canfield, formerly assistant vice president and actuary in actuarial transformation, to the role of vice president, corporate actuary and chief risk officer, effective April 1; she will also become a member of the company’s management committee.

Canfield is taking the role from Sally Manafi, who will retire on March 31 after joining the firm in 1992 and holding various leadership positions.

Canfield will be the corporate actuary and chief risk officer for the Standard’s StanCorp Financial Group Inc., Standard Insurance Co. and The Standard Life Insurance Co. of New York. She will be responsible for enterprise risk management, asset liability management and economic capital management; she will also hold responsibility for the actuarial aspects of company financial statements and product pricing, according to the firm.

Sally Manafi

Canfield joined the Standard in 2006, holding various actuarial roles at both Standard Insurance Co. and StanCorp Mortgage Investors. She subsequently held leadership roles in employee benefits and corporate actuarial, where, as assistant vice president and actuary in actuarial transformation since 2020, she has focused on the strategy and technology decisions intended to transform the actuarial function across the Standard.

Manafi will depart after leading the development of the company’s asset liability management function and enterprise risk management practice, along with being the “architect” of the firm’s ongoing actuarial transformation, according to the announcement. Recently, she had responsibility for the company’s corporate development function and several recent acquisitions.

Equitable Announces 2 Leader Moves

Jim Kais

Equitable, an Equitable Holdings Inc. company, has appointed a new head of group retirement, moving the former leader to its investment management division.

Effective April 1, Jim Kais will take the role of head of group retirement for Equitable after previously heading retirement plans for Ameritas. He will report to Nick Lane, president of Equitable, and join the firm’s operating committee.

Jessica Baehr, the former head of group retirement, will move into the role of president of Equitable’s investment management team. Baehr held the role of group retirement head for more than two years and will remain on the firm’s operating committee; she will be reporting to Chief Investment Officer Steven Joenk.

Kais will oversee strategy, product portfolio, client experience and financial results for Equitable’s group retirement business, including its 403(b) and 457 businesses and the small business 401(k) market.

During his time at Ameritas, Kais “transformed the company’s retirement plan distribution system,” according to the announcement. He has also worked with plan sponsors in the 403(b), 457 and 401(k) plan markets, including establishing the multiple employer plan business at Ameritas. Prior to that role, he worked at Transamerica, ADP Inc., Prudential and Merrill. He currently serves on the advisory board for the SPARK Institute and on the retirement plans committee of the American Council of Life Insurers.

Jessica Baehr

Baehr, who has been with Equitable for more than a decade, will oversee the registered investment adviser business for the firm, covering 126 portfolios that underlie the firm’s variable insurance products, retail mutual funds and suite of model portfolios. The division has about $116 billion in assets under management.

Baehr’s previous roles at the company included chief operating officer for the life and employee benefits businesses and head of investor relations. Prior to Equitable, Baehr worked in the nonprofit sector in higher education and international development.

“Equitable Investment Management is a differentiator for Equitable,” said CIO Joenk in a statement. “Jessica is a seasoned leader who is well-positioned to usher in our next chapter of growth, drawing upon her experience running our second largest business, Group Retirement, and deep understanding of our variable insurance products and proprietary funds.”

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